timeturner: I think Alex is being waaay too tough. I mean, HP has the whole adventure/magic/teen angst thing down but Twilight? Vampires, love stories, and Cedric finally getting the air time he deserves without being killed off by a boop like Pettigrew? There's just no comparison here.

LogicalRaven: I was highly disappointed with the Twilight series. I've never been one for mushy romance but I did enjoy the writing in general. I've went back and re-read the first three books after Breaking Dawn was released and I've since discovered New Moon was my favorite. I'm a sucker for an unhappy ending. My problem is that nothing was earned. There was no sacrifice or price to pay for happiness. I also feel like their was tons of plot holes that are unexplained.

LovlyRita: I actually did like Twilight, at least until the middle of the last book. I don't know if it's the 17 year old girl inside me, but I just loved Edward even though he is a total Gary-Stu. Now Bella...there's a subject that makes me bang my head against a wall. Ugh...I was so annoyed with her throughout the books that it just made me very sad. For some reason, even through all the annoying things, the books still struck a chord with me. Now compared to HP- no WAY! not even close. The intracacies of the HP storyline are far more superb than anything dreamed up in Twilight!

timeturner: *secretly thinks Logical can't forgive Robert for the whole Harry/Cho thing*

Arithmancy_wiz: I'm in a love-hate relationship with Twilight right now. I devoured the first one in two days...got really annoyed with New Moon...had to try three times to get into Eclipse only to decide in the end it was my favorite...and now I'm about 100 pages into Breaking Dawn and relatively under-impressed. I'm withholding further judgment until I actually finish the series (*cough* Alex *cough*).

AlexG2490: Hey now! I didn't mince words about it; I was very clear about not having read the books. I just don't like what I see enough to really feel motivated to jump in. Let me put it this way: Most of us, as kids, were told that you've got to try new foods at least once, and if you don't like it then it's OK not to have anymore. But now imagine someone serves you a big bowl of ice cream, right? Only instead of chocolate sauce they put motor oil on top of it. That's sort of what I see when I look at the description for the twilight series - a big crappy automotive-surprise-sundae.

AndrinaBlack: I have to admit that I haven't read more than the first book, and of that too about less than half and then I skimmed through the rest. No I didn't dislike it that much, I just didn't have the time to read it at the time... and well I kind of started reading "Wicked" (by Gregory Maguire) instead at some point. And I just haven't gotten back to it. But I did get caught up in the book when I started to read. I kind of liked it. But, but, but... why does Bella fall for this pale guy who doesn't like her and who can read everyone's thoughts (except hers) and not with that really nice and cute guy Mike? That Jessica knows what's best for her though! And I was so disappointed that I had heard all this talk about Jacob and then he comes in and basically says hi and that's it. Well I guess I have to read the rest of the books to know about the werewolf things. But I think she could have wrapped it all up in one book as I can't see how there would be so much to talk about the love story in the rest of the books. But eww I'm not sure I want to eat a big crappy automotive-surprise-sundae.

Flissy: I haven't read it. simply because the concept of emo girl meets dazzlingly beautiful vampire boy at an american high school and keeps talking about how beautiful and dazzling he is, is enough to turn me off. I know that might sound completely exaggerated to some, but it's the truth. Why in the world does a (how old is he?) hundred-something year old go to high school btw? Do they explain that somewhere in the book? And because I am not one to have an opinion and refuse to change it I asked several of my friends about this book and most of them said things like "I liked the plot but not the writing for the first three and loved the writing but hated the plot for the last one" and for me it needs to be both or the book will be thrown into a corner with a frustrated growl. Or they say "I read it because everyone does" and sometimes I had this thing about on purpose not doing whate everyone else does. And I have been told how it ends and I laughed and decided if that is how she wraps it up it's not worth it.

LovlyRita: I love it that you haven't read even read the book, Flissy, and you used the word "Dazzling" to describe Edward. Blah blah blah. I was super annoyed by that word. And also...I wouldn't exactly call Twilight a motor oil sundae, although there is a fantastic representation of vehicles in the books. I would say it's more like...learning to ride a bike. And not because you never forget to ride it, and all that, but because when you learn to ride a bike, sometimes you fall and skin your knees and it hurts, and you say "aww that sucks!" But other times you're great, riding with the wind whipping behind you, and you're happy. That's what twilight was like for me: I'd been riding great and then Stephenie Meyer made a literary decision I didn't agree with (The entiritey of New Moon, for example) and I kept falling off my "bike." But then, during Eclipse I got back on and tried again, and I was sailing good again.

timeturner: Hm...perhaps I'm just a sucker for the bad boys. Lord Voldemort and Edward - now those are the two I'd like to see go at each other. Much fairer competition than Harry/Edward. *ponders what motor oil tastes like on Haagen Daaz*

slytheringinny: To be honest, I think Voldemort would win in that battle. I still haven't read Breaking Dawn, and that's perfectly oki-doki with me. I'm not freaking out, and I'm certainly not that excited to even see the movie in December. (I only know the date it comes out thanks to obsessive friends). I agree with Wiz. I fell off my bike a few times reading New Moon, and Eclipse made me come to hate Jacob's guts and put a strange perspective on werewolves. Decent, but nothing compared to HP. . . *glances at ice cream warily to see if Alex snuck motor-oil on it*

AlexG2490: The idea behind a motor oil sundae, I guess, is that it's something so gross and disgusting sounding that you don't even want to give the thing a fair shot. Then again, Flissy, that bit about emo people and high school... well, it reminds me of a lot of fan fiction. On a completely different note, why are people so enamored with vampires anyway? I guess it's ever since Buffy the Vampire Slayer was on TV. It used to be that vampires were feared and loathed. Now people think they're cool. What's up with that?

Flissy: well, LovlyRita, everyone always uses the word "dazzling" when talking about edward, so I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon and use it too! yay for me! and Alex, maybe that is exactly why I don't want to read it. Because there is so much of it in fanfiction. That was also the problem with the epilogue of Deathly Hallows. We've seen just that scenario so often in fanfiction that it just wasn't... a surprise, you could say? and Edward is a bad guy? Come on, he's like an undead Harry Potter if you ask me! Voldemort does not hesitate to try and kill a baby (although he failed at it) and Edward is like ZOMG I don't want to want to kill her!!! If he's a bad guy I then I don't know what. I used to watch Buffy! and later angel but I didn't like that very much. And there is this other show now, called Moonlight. yay for vampires with souls, right? XD

LovlyRita: Everyone is enamored with Vampires because, the way Stephenie Meyer writes them, besides the whole "blood sucking" thing, they are the most beautiful, gorgeous, nice, fun, amazing, dazzling people E.V.E.R. All other humans pale in comparison. So why wouldn't people want to love Vampires? And Flissy, I agree with you about the whole "Edward couldn't seal the killing deal" thing, but it's different for him. I mean, Voldemort was an evil killing machine. Edward has one layer- one very dazzling layer. He is a vampire who ZOMGLUVS Bella and he will stop at nothing to try to protect her. After he almost kills her, of course. Harry Potter the character is unbelievably layered. It all goes back to writing style, and in my opinion, J.K. Rowling knocks the literary socks off of Stephenie Meyer.

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